
Interview by Ted Barrow on September 24, 2006
I was in junior high school, my first year, [when I] started skating. Someone taught me how to skate. This guy named Junior. He had a Santa Cruz, I think it was a Slasher. Around ‘87, ‘88. I’ve been skating a long time. He was doing acid drops and stuff. He told me to try it. I gave it a shot. The first time I slammed, landed on my knees. I don’t know why I was fascinated, so I just kept trying, about the third time I landed it. He was like, “Yo, you should skate, you should skate.” It was a bunch of Spanish kids that taught me how to skate.
Where was this?
In East New York. Not too far from Cypress Projects, matter of fact. We used to skate around there. Everyday I would skate at some fast food restaurant area. I think it was Wendy’s or KFC. There was this long rail, probably about 5 car lengths, and we’d wax the whole thing and slide the whole thing backside and frontside. We’d get all psyched off of that, and play our music and scream out Natas Kaupas, “Natas!” or, “Hosoi! Hosoi! And we’d go blazing fast.
What kind of music were you playing?
I would play rap, and some alternative. Some alternative. At that time the only alternative band I knew was maybe U2. Yeah, it was U2 as a matter of fact. And The Smiths. Yeah. Those Spanish kids put me onto that.
Yeah, Spanish people love The Smiths.
[Laughter].
When did you start going to the Banks?
I started going to the Banks when everybody – all the kids in East New York – they were getting into trouble, you know, selling drugs and stuff.
These were the kids that you used to skate with?
Yeah. The crew that I had in East New York. There was a guy named Chris, Junior, all these guys, Juni. They taught me how to skate, taught me how to ollie. They pretty much got careers, got cars, just disappeared one by one. So, I had to find somewhere to skate. Somebody told me about the Banks, so I took the train, and lo and behold, there was like a million people skating the Banks, and it was these big round bubbles to skate on, and you know, I just skated it, man.
Did you go into Manhattan to skate much before then?
No. Manhattan was like, I don’t know, another country to me. I knew nothing about Manhattan.
Who do you remember skating at the Banks at that point?
At that point, I could remember the Shut team.















